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Doesn't scale. We can't have 1,000,000 front page "App X uses Y SDK" posts. People will stop caring. Nobody's made a post of that flavor in awhile, and Zoom got caught in the crossfire. Honestly, if anything it shields other apps. People have a limited capacity for repeatedly addressing the same thing.


I think it doesn't always have to scale. Zoom is a huge player right now and in great usage across all industries, countries and users.


That's a great point. The 80-20 rule likely applies here. Of all instances of beaconing events, the bulk of those events originate from a small number of popular apps.


Really?!? If it wasn't for this post I wouldn't even know that they exist.


In that case, I should probably tell you that it’s a good idea to wash your hands.

Check any news outlet to know why, and you’re likely to also read about zoom in some article.


What industry do you work in and what country are you in right now?


Fortune 500 consulting, European Union market.

Webex, Teams, Slack are the only ones that matter.


I'd guess you work mainly with slower players (the mention of webex surely suggests so). Zoom as been very much on the rise for a year or so, and is riding the coronavirus WFH wave very well. IME quality is better than competitors, but boy do they use dark patterns. Finding the link to the web version in the meeting page becomes harder every day.


"Webex, Teams"

Yeah some companies are behind the curve (not blaming you).

Zoom is getting very popular


From security perspective, Companies do not like the fact that Zoom was developed in China and the vast majority of its R&D is still in China. China has different rules on security than many other countries. Particularly surrounding intellectual property. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1585521/000119312519...

"Top of page 21- In addition, we have a high concentration of research and development personnel in China, which could expose us to market scrutiny regarding the integrity of our solution or data security features. Any security compromise in our industry, whether actual or perceived, could harm our reputation, erode confidence in the effectiveness of our security measures, negatively affect our ability to attract new customers and hosts, cause existing customers to elect not to renew their subscriptions or subject us to third-party lawsuits, regulatory fines or other action or liability, which could harm our business."


That's exactly what laws are for.


I pay $20 a month for Zoom and consider it a business product. Collecting analytics via Facebook is unacceptable in this context.


Would any cloud-hosted analytics be acceptable? Is it just Facebook that’s problematic? What if they switched from client-side analytics to server-side so you couldn’t detect it all? Would that be any better? The bottom line is when you use a service, that data is their data to send to whomever they want.


> The bottom line is when you use a service, that data is their data to send to whomever they want.

No.

That's all that really needs to be said about it but I'll add a couple of more lines here so no one thinks I'm lazy or posting a shallow dismissal:

- First, just because someone trusts you it doesn't mean you are free to abuse them. This should go without saying!

- Second: In Europe and I think California as well this is also illegal.




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