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But for purposes of debating what someone should do illegal and unenforced generates the same outcomes as legal and if we're only concerned about outcomes it's rational to treat them as equivalent.


>what someone should do illegal and unenforced generates the same outcomes as legal

Illegal + unenforced can generate the same outcome as legal. Or someone can get arrested later when the enforcement begins.

There's a big difference.


> There's a big difference.

There's no difference in the short term. Something being illegal, doesn't mean it will stop anytime soon in this political situation. Remaking the same obvious point is tedious and smacks of word games to try a to make a backdoor political statement. Yes, some act is odious and against a law. Not relevant to whether or not it will have the desired consequence, regardless of who is ever held accountable.


>try a to make a backdoor political statement.

Yikes. Not trying to make any statement other than legality and enforcement are two distinct concepts. I think it's important to consider all 4 combinations.

What political statement do you think I'm trying to make? I can't even identify what side of the aisle the statement you think I'm trying to make would fall on.

Sometimes a comment is just a comment, not a secretly coded political message.


There is a simple dictionary difference between "legal" and "illegal." Using the actual meaning of a word is kinda the opposite of playing word games.


From the first instance:

> That sounds illegal

> There is a simple dictionary difference between "legal" and "illegal.

This is kind of response is a repeat of exactly what I have described.

Again, "illegal" was used in context to mean something else. ie The damage will be remedied...which it cannot fully be, nor is it likely to be. Sampling conversations going forward from that, is where the thread has been allowed to be unraveled.

Elevating the original statement to be more than what it meant in context, is irrelevant. Posters are continually choosing new (eg dictionary!) interpretations of the sentiment at every turn.


Yes, I see, the dictionary definition is brand new. It just dropped right out of the sky. Very good point.


That's amusing but irrelevant. Sometimes we may not only be concerned about what you call "outcomes." To cover those occasions, we use a variety of different words.




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