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I think starting from "put surveillance cameras everywhere, because IF they contribute to a number of arrests that MIGHT end up being a net good" is an uncompelling argument.

How about you give me your bank account details and permission to make free use of all your money, and then IF I contribute more value with your money than you do that MIGHT end up being a net good, so let's try it first and find out later?

"stop reading about the abuses of power, just ignore them" is a really poor position to take.



> I think starting from "put surveillance cameras everywhere, because IF they contribute to a number of arrests that MIGHT end up being a net good" is an uncompelling argument.

I'm not starting from this argument, though. I'm starting from the argument that we shouldn't be inherently opposed to putting up more of we think the benefit outweighs the negatives or risks of abuse

Your level of strawmanning here tells me you're not arguing in good faith


Quoting you and swapping the terms around is not strawmanning, it's "turnabout is fair play".


I fail to see where you've quoted me?




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