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I learned from a BSides presentation that Ukranian military are using Starlink trancievers placed in pits to beat ground-based signal detection. Do with that what you will.


There's two kind of separate problems, a ground based force with >10GHz band portable spectrum analyzers and the training to use them to locate the terminal emissions, or just somebody with very low-cost/free android wifi analyzer app or a $200 handheld <6GHz spectrum analyzer to locate 802.11ac/ax WAPs (nevermind if the SSID is broadcast or not).

google image search "iran confiscates satellite dishes" for some example photos from their domestic media.

https://www.google.com/search?num=10&q=iran+confiscates+sate...

There's also the problem of just physically identifying starlink terminals on roofs. Iran has gone on sprees of confiscating ku band TVRO satellite dishes for a long time.

It's entirely possible to use a starlink terminal with exclusively wired ethernet stuff, including usb-c to gigabit ethernet adapters plugged into android phones, it just takes some training and discipline for the ordinary non technical user.


I heard that Iran is just looking for Starlink SSIDs so if you turn off Wi-Fi they won't find it.


The user has to be more careful. If he has installed any official Iranian apps (like banking or communication) or even visits such a website their IP address will be recorded and most certainly looked into. Even if they use split tunneling for domestic websites, some apps intentionally try to ping unreachable servers from Iran (For instance "Bale" might ping a sentry instance hosted outside of Iran, normally inaccessible from the domestic intranet) to catch the more careful users.


Wouldn't they be easily detected from airborne drones?


No, because the collimating effect on the beam would still require you to have line of sight to the emitter, and if a drone is able to get that close without being intercepted then something else has already gone wrong.

But this is also an example of weird absolutist thinking about military tactics: is it unbeatable? No. Does it complicate the surveillance and detection picture? Yes.


Are you under the impression that the starlink terminals in Iran are for US military?


The parent comment here was about usage in Ukraine rather than Iran


I’d have thought the idea that you should have shot down the drone that’s hunting you might be a clue it’s not a comment aimed at the average domestic WiFi user.


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Russia/Muscovy also started their long imperial expansion in the mid-1500s, with the wars of Ivan the Terrible. A well-known CIA plant, of course. /s

Most of Europe east of the Elbe has personal experience with Russian imperial rule, and 90%+ people will tell you "never again". The rest are mostly traitors hoping for jobs under a new occupation regime.

Calling what happens in Ukraine an "ethnic conflict" is like calling the genocide and deportation of American Indians "a heated dispute over lucrative real property" or calling the Atlantic slave trade "movement of affordable workforce". It is a freaking war of conquest motivated by sense of entitlement of a rotten empire which hasn't yet fully understood that its heyday is long gone and now is learning the hard way.

The German imperial madness took two massive military defeats to dissipate. Let us hope that the Russian imperial madness will finally suffer the same fate in front of our eyes. At this point of history, having New Tatarstan there instead of Russia would bring Eastern Europe a lot more peace and prosperity. We could call the new entity a Silicon Horde.


It doesn't because it's historically inaccurate.




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